tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37388994.post813084416188513502..comments2024-01-13T00:38:28.549-08:00Comments on Southern California Aquatics SCAQ Swim Club: Swimming World tackles the American Swimming Coaches Association (ASCA) certification process!Tony Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00109365938555421509noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37388994.post-39295081041780125292012-01-07T20:26:44.597-08:002012-01-07T20:26:44.597-08:00I recently got a great job in California without t...I recently got a great job in California without taking any claim of current asca membership. experience says volumes on a resume. Even asca has to readily confess they don't know that their level 5 coaches are particularly good leaders (or ethical). They have no way to prove if their awarded elite, much less the level 4, coaches are all highly reputable.<br /><br />Here is a copy of the happy letter they sent me.......(3rd paragraph very interesting.................................................................<br /><br />subject: NO LONGER ASCA LEVEL 3!!!!<br /><br />12/01/11<br />High priority<br /><br /> Certification<br /> Certification@swimmingcoach.org<br /> <br />From: Certification (Certification@swimmingcoach.org)<br />Sent: Thu 12/01/11 9:02 AM<br />To: Certification (Certification@swimmingcoach.org)<br /><br /><br />Coach,<br /><br />I see that you where an ASCA Level 3 Coach. I am sure that is very important to you!<br /><br />I am not sure if you are aware but you lose your certification level when your membership expires. <br /><br />Meaning you cannot represent yourself as a Level 3 certified coach to parents, employers or<br />potential employers. You have<br />taken the time to get the Level 3<br />status, why not keep it?? It is important to keep your ASCA Membership current, that is why I am dropping you a friendly reminder that you membership is expired!<br /><br />Please renew by calling 1-800-356-2722 as soon as possible, so that you may continue your Level 3 Certification status. If you are no longer coaching or retired, we would like know that too!surfernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37388994.post-60260155366346224822012-01-05T10:16:25.797-08:002012-01-05T10:16:25.797-08:00You were fooled by Swimming World pretending to be...You were fooled by Swimming World pretending to be anti-ASCA?? Clearly more propoganda by Brent Rutemiller and Jason Marsteller, just like they do with the USA Swimming athlete protection people! Who's shocked that Swimming World published a softball report that's contrary to what's actually happening in the real world, in exchange for favoritism with USAS/ASCA?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37388994.post-75765643516854462382012-01-01T17:14:45.274-08:002012-01-01T17:14:45.274-08:00I have an example that maybe people will understan...I have an example that maybe people will understand.<br /><br />My family recently took a SCUBA diving course. Upon completion a PADI Open Water Certification Card was received.<br /><br />Shortly after an offer to buy a membership with PADI was received. Although the offer was declined, it had no effect on the certification.<br /><br />The certification stands with or without a membership to PADI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37388994.post-477292799879651132012-01-01T13:14:10.000-08:002012-01-01T13:14:10.000-08:00If what you say is true, and I have no reason to d...If what you say is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, they are essentially saying that certification is based upon payment only! That is sincerely damning and should be publicized.<br /><br />Could you scan the letter or if it was an email, publish it and include the header info?<br /><br />You would be doing a service, believe me. By doing so would provide de facto evidence how this association does business. i.e. You pay to be certified rather than earn certification via updating your education.<br /><br />This validates my argument that education and certification must be separate.<br /><br />Thank you for commenting, you certainly are shaking up the "coach industrial complex."Tony Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00109365938555421509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37388994.post-85923535185211567872012-01-01T12:35:38.172-08:002012-01-01T12:35:38.172-08:00I specifically emailed ASCA and asked, when prompt...I specifically emailed ASCA and asked, when prompted to renew, if I let it expire, then renewed at a later date, would I regain my status., This was about a month ago. This is what I got back:<br /><br />"Once, you renew your membership your certification level will be reinstated, as certification is a benefit of membership with ASCA.<br /> <br />Thank you for your continued support and membership with ASCA!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com